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Installing hanging light fixture w/ no attic?
We have a two story house and would like to hang a chandelier over the dinning table. There is not one currently there, plus there is no attic access. Is there any other way, other than to tear up a lot of the ceiling and notch the beams acroos to the fixture to get electrical wiring to it? My husband is a great electrician and great w/ drywall as well- the problem is the ceiling has a slight texture. From a prvious leak and repair, I know how hard that is to fix so it is not obvious. With the light from a chandelier, it would almost have to be perfect.
Any tips, suggestions or things I 've not thought of would be appreciated. Thanks!
The way I like to do it is to cut a round hole into the ceiling in the location you want to have the light. The size of the hole is the size of a ceiling mount box. You will want a ceiling fan mount box, a Chandelier is heavy, so use a box that can handle the weight. How you proceed from here depends on the ceiling/floor joists above.
If you are in between two floor joists(this is actually better by the way), you will use a compression mount that screws itself apart to hold on two joists. If you are right on a joist, use a saddle type box that attaches directly to the joist.
Now you have to get electrical to it. If you are lucky, the joist run in the direction you want to switch. The wire you need can run along the joist to the wall. Getting into the wall will require that you cut another hole in the ceiling or the floor above in order to thread the wire through the double top plate of the wall. You will need to drill a through that double top plate, which is 3" thick, 1/2" hole will to it. I cut a rectangular hole in the wall the size of a remodel switch box. I use 4' long flexable drill bits so that I can drill holes without having to cut big holes in the drywall. I try to pull my power from an existing lighting curcuit rather than an outlet. Lighting curcuits usually have #14 wire and a 15 amp breaker. #14 is easier to wire into the small light fixture wires. If you do have to pull power from an outlet, you will need to run all your wire in #12 as you will be protected by a 20 amp breaker. Breakers protect wires, not fixtures. The thin #14 wires would burn before a 20 amp breaker will trip.
Running across the joist is more of a problem as you have to drill through each one to the wall. The long drill though, means you can drill through two before you have to cut another hole in the ceiling. Do not notch joists! When you do this, you will weeken the joist and could cause a floor failure. All holes must be in the middle third of the joist. This is per the building code. the bottom is the worst place to cut any load bearing beam. The hole need only be 1/2" but you can cut them 1" if you want.
The holes that I do cut in drywall are 6" diameter and cut with a drywall holesaw. This gives me room to put my hand and tools inside the wall. The holes are easy to patch, because I use the cuttout to make the patch. To patch, back the hole with a 10" x 4" piece of scrape plywood. Put two screws into each end of the plywood, This will hold it tight to the back of the drywall. Now it is each to screw the patch into the hole. Another method, when you want a bigger hole, is to cut with a rotary cutter in between supports as big as you need. Save the cut out and use it to patch the hole later. Fix with setting type of drywall patch. and texture to match. Don't be afraid to try the texture patch, it can be done. Practice on some scrap drywall. You can get the hang of it.
Good luck with this, it can be done.
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